Noah: You have had a lot of success leading up to chiropractic. Walk us through the process that you took in order to decide the chiropractic school was the right choice for you and how did you become one of the leading sports chiropractors in the world
Dr. Spencer: I was consulting in the high performance world and there are a lot of questions about injury prevention and management. Also, how do you get-well and stay well. I decided to explore the world of health and I selected chiropractic because that uses natural methods and it's more open to trying esoteric things that can lead to long term physical change.
Eventually I got into the sports performance role which is natural for me being an Olympian. I was interested in seeing how far I could take something. I looked for ways of creating the best possible model for being proactive with injury prevention, peak performance and injury recovery.
Noah: How did your curiosity help you to dive deeper?
Dr. Spencer: Because I was an Olympian there are certain things I knew to be true about peak performance, recovery, injury prevention and injury care that defied conventional explanations. I knew that there was something different out there, but I wasn’t quite sure what that was. I have a master's degree in sports science and had a really good foundation to evaluate methods that work and whether or not they made sense to me. Eventually I created a model that worked as a system and that’s basically the way that I did it.
It’s better to really follow your curiosity and what interests you. I was interested in reflex techniques like activator and to me adjusting is only one tool. I looked for things that were of extraordinary innovation and I looked for things that could be combined together to create model that allows people to get well and stay well consistently and predictably.
Noah: It appears that you’ve transitioned out of providing care for Olympic level athletes to coaching other chiropractors Can you talk about how you support chiropractors?
Dr. Spencer: I’m no longer in practice, but I do study health and innovative revolutionary health care models every day. Right now I work with high level performers. People have this idea that I only work with athletes because I was in Olympia, but that’s not true. Most of my time is spent in the business world and in the high-performance world.
I have continued to work in the world of high-performance helping people become higher performers as individuals themselves and really understand how to reach their big goals consistently and predictably which is really the primal skill of life.
I’ve cracked the code on that. I don't teach any seminars at this point, but I do presentations when asked.
Noah: You talk about the preparation. What does it take to excel in school and out of school?
Dr. Spencer: What I do know is that you just got to stay in the game and once you're out then learning begins. Then you can start the craft and create the healthcare model of your vision. As you become more skilled you can modify accordingly and to me that's extraordinarily important. Do the best you can in school, but then spend time in people's offices really understanding the reality what practice is. Being a clinician, managing people, and being a business person. All those are essential ingredients to becoming a successful practitioner. All three of those have to be sufficiently developed.
Noah: In terms of developing those skills is there any preparation that you require before you to work with someone one-on-one?
Dr. Spencer: What’s really important to me is for anybody in the health sciences to really understand the body. Most of us only have partial information about how the body heals, the way that it responds to care, and the different methods of being able to interface with the body to accelerate healing.
There’s a whole other universe out there that can make some of the miracles that we see in health career normal rather than the occasional occurrence.
We need to be made aware of the foundational knowledge about the body and how the body gets and stays well.
That's beyond collecting a bunch of techniques. Have techniques that cover every one of the criteria for health. Nutritional deficiency is equally important as loss of fitness or poor posture.
There's also multiple communication systems in the body, there's more than just the nervous system. There are other systems out there that work cooperatively with the nervous system to control and coordinate all the structures and functions of the body.
Science is clear that what controls healing is the connective tissue and Robert Becker discovered this in The Body Electric. We really need to understand the mechanisms of the body in terms of it cytology, biology, and physiology.
I realized that there was a whole other way of creating a practice model that could create clinical outcomes in significantly shorter time with a much higher level of predictability.
Noah: What are the books you recommend to learn more about this?
Dr. Spencer: There’s Cells, Gels and the Engines of Life by Gerald Pollack. He describes the cell as it really is and the cell is very different than we’re taught.
Another book is called Energy Medicine by dr. James Oschman. He's the guy that changed my view of the body. He showed me how I could revolutionize my practice and got me on this other way of looking at things.
You're not going to get chiropractic techniques from them, but an understanding of what the body is and when I understood the body as it is then I was able to create a chiropractic model around that that.
Noah: As an Olympian and do you have kind of framework that you use in order tom assist to your curiosity?
Well as an Olympian you're persistent. You find ways of getting a competitive advantage. I did it with the idea of seeing how far I could evolve something so it can be as effective as possible.
The other thing is that they have really good common sense and I could have pretty good BS meter. I don't like guessing I like predicted outcomes and I also like being out on the edge and investigating things. I’m extraordinary not because I'm clever, but because I can put things together in a different way
Parts of the body work together is an integrated whole. There is a certain reality about the body and in my opinion in my experience the body really calls the shots. If we can work with the body then we have the greatest chance of creating a vital practice because we're confident in the clinical outcomes.
See the entire interview here: https://youtu.be/lsslfibubde
Writing with originality, generosity, compassion and purpose, Dr. Noah Volz imparts valuable lessons in an entertaining, engaging and snappy way―backed by a wealth of experience. As an author, chiropractor, and entrepreneur, he has started and run multiple companies and has been the host of the DC2Be Revolution YouTube channel and podcast.